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Cavalier King Charles MVD Whenever possible, beat your vet out of a bona fide fee. Why should we have vets standing by to help our pets when we can use a breeder for shots, or get the opinion of a dog trainer in lieu of qualified veterinarian care? Buy medications on line from PetMed and whenever possible, trade with the professional with the lowest fees. They're the best. =END EDITORIAL= Mitral Valve Disease Kills more Cavs than any other breed. It's believed to be a genetic defect which can start young, but pets may live a short life, or they may linger into their teens. Early detection and palliative care are imperative. Avoidance of overweight conditions and superb dental care are important. Early detection by competent veterinary cardiologists is especially important for breeders who should remove these from their programs. Despite what is known, a great deal of CRAP is being written and read on the Internet about MVD and someone, this author, finally put the myths out with a well written, well considered article. She writes: I have been reading the posts of the last 24 hours with much interest, frustration, and discouragement. I have quite intentionally waited to respond, but I can no longer keep silent. Anyone who has been in this breed for any length of time knows that mitral valve disease in Cavaliers is a very serious problem. Cavaliers have 20 times the incidence of MVD as the next closest breed. The age of onset seems to be getting younger and younger. Some of the dogs live with their disease quite well (my beloved Alfred is an example of this), and others die of this disease at a completely unacceptable early age. Conscientious breeders have been repeatedly frustrated in their attempts to prevent this. Thank goodness, the CKCSC,USA decided to become involved in a research project with Dr James Buchanan at the Univ of PA vet school. He, together with Dr Andrew Beardow, began the first heart clinics held in conjunction with our shows. Over the years, these clinics have expanded from just the northeast portion of the US to now being held at least 2 times a year by each of the 4 regional clubs. The Canadian Cavalier Club also is involved with a research project and Pat Barrington has told you much about their program. And of course, the UK Cavalier Club also has a research program as well as Sweden. The Cavalier world is a very small one and we are all working together and trying to share as much information as possible. Dr Buchanan has reported back to the Club several times over the years. In May, the Club organized and sponsored an International Heart Symposium in Atlanta in conjunction with our National Specialty. It is a shame that you were not able to be present as it was an extraordinary event. There have been 3 major studies done on mitral valve disease in Cavaliers; one in the UK, ours in the US and one in Sweden. Representatives of all three of these studies were present and spoke as well as Dr Keene from N Carolina State Vet School who is conducting a study on drugs and MVD. I know that the transcript of the entire symposium is in the process of being prepared and will be made available for sale when it is ready. The summation was prepared directly from the tapes and is not the "memory" or "interpretation" of its author. To the best of my knowledge, no one who attended the symposium has questioned the accuracy of her summary. Several other members of the Lists have already addressed some of your statements and I will try not to repeat too much. You need to understand that the statements that many of us make are NOT our own opinions; we are reporting what the cardiologists/geneticist in the various heart study research projects have told us. You have challenged the Club's protocol of auscultation by board-certified cardiologists. This was not a capricious decision made by breeder/members. It was made on the advice of several of the cardiologists involved in the various studies. The quality of small animal practice vets ranges from outstanding to pitiful, if not downright unethical. In an attempt to work from a level playing field, the decision was made to recommend that all auscultation be done by a board certified cardiologist. Auscultation was made the diagnostic method of choice, again based on the recommendations of the cardiologists doing our heart study research. In order to encourage our membership to use this protocol, the regional clubs sponsor frequent heart clinics, some free, the others usually costing $15-20 per dog. We are encouraging our pet owners to also participate in this program, as sibling information is very important when dealing with a polygenic trait. Copies of all the examinations and the pedigree of the dog examined go to Dr Buchanan to aid in his research. You mentioned "free dopplers" provided by the Club. This is simply not financially feasible, but the Club did have them available at one show for $20 per dog. In the very beginning of the research program, I think that Cavalier owners and breeders believed that through research, we would identify the genes involved in MVD and then "breed them out". We now know that the best way to solve this serious problem is to attempt to raise the age of onset to a high enough age that the dogs will probably die of something else. A protocol has been recommended that is believed to help us do this. It will be very hard for most breeders to follow unless they are willing to make some major sacrifices, and most will only sacrifice so far. But we can hope that little by little, the breeders will come closer and closer to following the protocol, and will within 3-5 yrs, be following it completely. Ethical breeders will tell their puppy buyers what testing they do and provide them with written documentation of it. They will stress to their puppy buyers that these are NOT guarantees, as at this time, we have no means of establishing the genetic makeup of the dogs tested. It is a good first step as we do know that dogs that themselves manifest luxating patellas, hip dysplasia, MVD and several other problems are far more likely to pass these diseases on to their progeny than those who do not manifest the diseases, even if they carry the genes for them. We know this has worked with hip dysplasia as the OFA can show an improvement over the past 20 years. I know of no respected breeders who are telling their puppy buyers that if the parents of their puppy are clear at age 2, then the puppy will never develop MVD. Anyone who has told you this has probably completely misunderstood what the breeder said. As a matter of fact, many breeders tell their puppy buyers that statistically the chances are that their Cavalier WILL at sometime in its life develop MVD, and that is correct (statistics provided by the various heart studies.). You mention early spay/neuter as a possible cause of early onset MVD. I don't think anyone - breeders, pet owners, cardiologists doing research -want to reject any possible theory out of hand, but the participants of the symposium pointed out that diet, the environment, vaccinations (early spay/neuter was not mentioned specifically but would be the same), are pretty much the same for ALL breeds of dogs, yet it is Cavaliers who have this dramatically greater incidence of MVD. If it was caused by these things, we would see a rise in other breeds as well and this just isn't so. The standard age recommended by most veterinary schools is 5-7 months of age, regardless of breed. In addition, even earlier spay/neuter done at 8-12 wks of age, has been being done for 20 years with no adverse effect on the dogs involved. Again, why would only Cavaliers have this cause them problems? You have said: "Breeders inform us their dogs are living longer...yet they are not castrated, while the dogs sold for housepets are neutered early and not living as long." I don't know which breeders have been "informing" you of this, but it just plain isn't so. We know that some lines seem to produce dogs that have greater longevity than some others, but this has been the same for both un-neutered animals and pets from the same lines. You have also said that "Grade 1 murmurs are usually 'flow murmurs'" and this just isn't so. Much of the time, they are the first indication of trouble to come. If they are found in dogs that are breeding stock, the breeder is advised to follow up with a doppler examination before doing anything as drastic as spaying/neutering. If the doppler is still inconclusive, they are advised to wait 6 months and re-examine. With the exception of one list member, Leanne Bertani, none of us is a medical doctor. We are breeders, pet owners and prospective puppy buyers. Many of the breeders and pet owners on this List have spent many years reading everything about MVD in Cavaliers that has been written, attending the symposium and the other meetings where our heart study project was reported on by the cardiologists involved. We may not have medical backgrounds, but we are very well informed about this subject. And of course, we know what has happened to our own dogs. No one wants to pick on you, nor do any of us question your medical knowledge in your own field. But it is very hard for us to sit here and read message after message telling us that we know little or nothing about this subject, and that we are going about this whole subject in the wrong way. We are trying to digest everything we are told by the cardiologists who ARE experts, and as we are not medically trained, we must put our trust in the people who have the most experience with and knowledge of this subject, namely the researchers involved. None of us thinks we "know it all" - we are ALL still learning and most of us are trying very hard to to implement the information given to us by the various heart study researchers. We can do no more. -- Suzanne R Brown THATCHCOTE Cavaliers Louisville, KY and Fryeburg, ME |
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